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		<title>By: Gen Y Cares About Conversation; Everyone Else, Not So Much — Social Pollination</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gen Y Cares About Conversation; Everyone Else, Not So Much — Social Pollination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don&#8217;t want conversation. They want you to be &#8220;nice.&#8221; Because that forms &#8220;relationships&#8221; and builds [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] don&#8217;t want conversation. They want you to be &#8220;nice.&#8221; Because that forms &#8220;relationships&#8221; and builds [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Community Rant — OwlSparks &#124; Carlos Miceli</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Community Rant — OwlSparks &#124; Carlos Miceli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Decisions, Future, Skepticism, Thoughts, idealism, speaking   My friend Ryan Stephens wrote a follow up post (which I recommend you to read) to my post &#8220;How to Build a Community of Drones&#8221;. The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Decisions, Future, Skepticism, Thoughts, idealism, speaking   My friend Ryan Stephens wrote a follow up post (which I recommend you to read) to my post &#8220;How to Build a Community of Drones&#8221;. The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Jahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I love this line: &quot;I don’t want to be the Letterman, the Leno of blogging, I want to be the Adam Carolla of blogging.&quot;

So true.
.-= Tim Jahn&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beyondthepedway.com/nogginlabs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NogginLabs&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I love this line: &#8220;I don’t want to be the Letterman, the Leno of blogging, I want to be the Adam Carolla of blogging.&#8221;</p>
<p>So true.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Tim Jahn&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.beyondthepedway.com/nogginlabs" rel="nofollow">NogginLabs</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://ryanstephensmarketing.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Miceli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Miceli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not against educating the masses, but I don&#039;t believe you can do it in a massive way. That&#039;s self-promotion in disguise, even if sub-conscious.

I said it before, that kind of education works privately, one on one. One person is smart, but people are stupid.
.-= Carlos Miceli&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.owlsparks.com/advice/the-human-equation-conflict/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Human Equation Conflict&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not against educating the masses, but I don&#8217;t believe you can do it in a massive way. That&#8217;s self-promotion in disguise, even if sub-conscious.</p>
<p>I said it before, that kind of education works privately, one on one. One person is smart, but people are stupid.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Carlos Miceli&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.owlsparks.com/advice/the-human-equation-conflict/" rel="nofollow">The Human Equation Conflict</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://ryanstephensmarketing.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Stephens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some thoughts from contributor &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justinkownacki.com/2010/02/26/an-open-letter-to-my-audience-what-do-you-need-from-me/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Justin Kownacki&lt;/a&gt; that might help shed light on the two sides being presented here:

&quot;&lt;i&gt;We’re tired of the mediocrity and we’re demanding more from this rich medium that’s practically overflowing with potential. The problem is, that potential never seems to be reached because we all spend too much time rehashing the same topics and polishing our own reputations, rather than collectively pushing the medium forward. But for those of us who would like to discuss these issues at a more “advanced” level, there’s a catch: Because our audiences come to us for advice and insights, we spend the bulk of our time educating others and far too little time pursuing the lessons we need to improve ourselves. What we need is to do both at once.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

On one side you have Bryan and Matt that believe strongly about educating the masses (whether they&#039;re necessarily drones or not), and on the other you have Carlos, Monica, &amp; Tim who&#039;d rather let them worry about themselves and push the medium forward.

Though my own disposition leads towards the latter, I certainly see the need for the first. I was going to conclude that in most circumstances you have to pick your path and follow it, and that while there can be some overlap it&#039;s tough to truly do both.

Justin&#039;s proposed solution has me thinking differently. Can someone effectively do both at once? Would Carlos even want to? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some thoughts from contributor <a href="http://www.justinkownacki.com/2010/02/26/an-open-letter-to-my-audience-what-do-you-need-from-me/" rel="nofollow">Justin Kownacki</a> that might help shed light on the two sides being presented here:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>We’re tired of the mediocrity and we’re demanding more from this rich medium that’s practically overflowing with potential. The problem is, that potential never seems to be reached because we all spend too much time rehashing the same topics and polishing our own reputations, rather than collectively pushing the medium forward. But for those of us who would like to discuss these issues at a more “advanced” level, there’s a catch: Because our audiences come to us for advice and insights, we spend the bulk of our time educating others and far too little time pursuing the lessons we need to improve ourselves. What we need is to do both at once.</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>On one side you have Bryan and Matt that believe strongly about educating the masses (whether they&#8217;re necessarily drones or not), and on the other you have Carlos, Monica, &#038; Tim who&#8217;d rather let them worry about themselves and push the medium forward.</p>
<p>Though my own disposition leads towards the latter, I certainly see the need for the first. I was going to conclude that in most circumstances you have to pick your path and follow it, and that while there can be some overlap it&#8217;s tough to truly do both.</p>
<p>Justin&#8217;s proposed solution has me thinking differently. Can someone effectively do both at once? Would Carlos even want to? <img src='http://ryanstephensmarketing.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Jahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems like you are promoting a model of mediocre content that would not normally be shared but is because these weak ties feel like they have to reciprocate.&quot;

Bingo.  People feel the need to stroke everybody else&#039;s back and ego, just so that other people can do the same to them.  I&#039;m all for collaboration, working on projects together, and that sort of activity.

But there&#039;s a big difference between that and promoting a world of mediocrity for the sake of building your own drone fanbase.
.-= Tim Jahn&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beyondthepedway.com/fifth-house-ensemble&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fifth House Ensemble&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems like you are promoting a model of mediocre content that would not normally be shared but is because these weak ties feel like they have to reciprocate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bingo.  People feel the need to stroke everybody else&#8217;s back and ego, just so that other people can do the same to them.  I&#8217;m all for collaboration, working on projects together, and that sort of activity.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s a big difference between that and promoting a world of mediocrity for the sake of building your own drone fanbase.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Tim Jahn&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.beyondthepedway.com/fifth-house-ensemble" rel="nofollow">Fifth House Ensemble</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://ryanstephensmarketing.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Jahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS is the best comment ever.  Rock on, Carlos.  Rock on.
.-= Tim Jahn&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beyondthepedway.com/fifth-house-ensemble&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fifth House Ensemble&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS is the best comment ever.  Rock on, Carlos.  Rock on.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Tim Jahn&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.beyondthepedway.com/fifth-house-ensemble" rel="nofollow">Fifth House Ensemble</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://ryanstephensmarketing.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Stephens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Stephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam - In most instances online, I think skimming something is probably equivalent to reading it. The web is so saturated with noise at this point, that as long as you have a good sense of what you&#039;re sharing I think it&#039;s appropriate. The person&#039;s name &amp; the title of the most though do not provide sufficient enough data to make that assumption in my opinion.

I don&#039;t think there are &quot;some&quot; drones, I think there are &quot;MANY&quot; drones, but that&#039;s SAMantics... &lt;-- see what I did there? :) There&#039;s NOTHING wrong with supporting friends or even weak ties, provided that it&#039;s for the right reasons and you&#039;re as intent on challenging them when necessary as you are about praising them when deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam &#8211; In most instances online, I think skimming something is probably equivalent to reading it. The web is so saturated with noise at this point, that as long as you have a good sense of what you&#8217;re sharing I think it&#8217;s appropriate. The person&#8217;s name &amp; the title of the most though do not provide sufficient enough data to make that assumption in my opinion.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there are &#8220;some&#8221; drones, I think there are &#8220;MANY&#8221; drones, but that&#8217;s SAMantics&#8230; &lt;&#8211; see what I did there? <img src='http://ryanstephensmarketing.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  There&#039;s NOTHING wrong with supporting friends or even weak ties, provided that it&#039;s for the right reasons and you&#039;re as intent on challenging them when necessary as you are about praising them when deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh jeez. I don&#039;t know that you need a lot of weak connections to get your message out. I think you need a lot of great content.

It seems like you are promoting a model of mediocre content that would not normally be shared but is because these weak ties feel like they have to reciprocate.

I agree that it is nice to retweet others, but I won&#039;t do it insincerely. I don&#039;t ever retweet many of my friends and I do retweet plenty of strangers. My friends are still my friends and the strangers are still people who produced something really interesting that was worth sharing with others.

Using weak ties as your main promotional tool might be the substitute for actually producing something worth talking about.
.-= Monica O&#039;Brien&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TwentySet/~3/QjVrrS_A6kw/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Next on the Digital Chopping Block: Cable Television&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh jeez. I don&#8217;t know that you need a lot of weak connections to get your message out. I think you need a lot of great content.</p>
<p>It seems like you are promoting a model of mediocre content that would not normally be shared but is because these weak ties feel like they have to reciprocate.</p>
<p>I agree that it is nice to retweet others, but I won&#8217;t do it insincerely. I don&#8217;t ever retweet many of my friends and I do retweet plenty of strangers. My friends are still my friends and the strangers are still people who produced something really interesting that was worth sharing with others.</p>
<p>Using weak ties as your main promotional tool might be the substitute for actually producing something worth talking about.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Monica O&#8217;Brien&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TwentySet/~3/QjVrrS_A6kw/" rel="nofollow">Next on the Digital Chopping Block: Cable Television</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://ryanstephensmarketing.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Monica O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Tim. Get the drones to question themselves and self-reflect without coming off like a jerk is the solution, I think.
.-= Monica O&#039;Brien&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TwentySet/~3/QjVrrS_A6kw/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Next on the Digital Chopping Block: Cable Television&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Tim. Get the drones to question themselves and self-reflect without coming off like a jerk is the solution, I think.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Monica O&#8217;Brien&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TwentySet/~3/QjVrrS_A6kw/" rel="nofollow">Next on the Digital Chopping Block: Cable Television</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://ryanstephensmarketing.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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